new york city police officers ended up wounding nine bystanders. doesn't that create also a dangerous precedent that's worth some concern and caution? >> no. because here's -- what's the alternative? 20 students massacred, six administrators, teachers? this is going to happen again and again and some people out there are trying to be thoughtful and say, well, let's restrict gun ownership or possession or the size and capacity of magazines, thinking somehow that this will improve school safety. it will not. and so, i'm trying to be realistic, is how can we do it, when you refer to new york city. some of the key elements in safety, in law enforcement officers are trained in this, and should be far more disciplined. and not to criticize these new york officers, but you always watch your backstop, in anyone this your environment, before you fire at anybody. and so, every police officer, just because we wear a badge, we're not superheroes. it takes discipline and it takes training and then you expect, in a crisis, that we can perform at least to the lev